Post by Fuggle on Jul 7, 2004 9:16:26 GMT -5
(With thanks to God Save The Sex Pistols)
Part Two: 1977
Jan 5, 1977 - Paradiso Club, Amsterdam, Holland
Trt - 40:49
Number of Songs - 11
Format - cassette
Sound Quality - noisy, static filled audience recording
Rating - 6
Official/Semi Official Release - none known
REVIEW
While it isn’t one of the greatest sounding gigs it is Glen’s last (not counting the reunion) and for that alone it should be sought out. It is the last time you will hear “substitute” played live, as Sid could never tackle that one. A pretty well played gig all in all but not played with the ferocity of some of the earlier September 76’gigs. In addition to the playing Glen’s back-ups will also be sadly missed as Steve’s tend to almost be delivered in a joking manner and Sid’s that of a football chant. During “I Wanna be Me” Johnny yells out “EMI” acknowledging the fact that the band already knew the company would release a statement the following day as to the termination of their contract. A relatively short set this time but this would become the norm until the end of the year when they will play some of their longest ones. “God Save the Queen” is quite an interesting version with Johnny and Steve adlibbing parts throughout. All in all worth it as the overall mix is nice and balanced and helps to overcome some of the sonic interferences.
DRAWBACKS
There are some minor sound modulations and it is a generally noisy sounding tape with lots of static. The very first few seconds of “Anarchy” have been clipped but not very bad you probably won’t notice it. The beginning of “Satellite” sounds a bit abrupt but doesn’t really sound like there is an edit, but there does sound like a sonic change after “God Save The Queen”, which may have just been a quick edit to flip the tape.
SETLIST
Anarchy In The UK
I Wanna Be Me
Seventeen
New York
Satellite
God Save The Queen
Substitute
No Feelings
Pretty Vacant
Liar
Problems
April 3rd, 1977 - Screen on the Green, Islington
Trt - 38:19
Number of Songs - 12
Format - cassette
Sound Quality - average audience w/ some modulation, static
Rating - 1-10 (7) 11,12 (6)
Official/Semi Official Release - none known
Video -GSTQ (2 versions) & bits of 17, New York, Liar & Pretty Vacant in Don Letts’ Punk Rock Movie.
REVIEW
Overall this is a pretty good audience tape but it does suffer at times from a bit of modulation in levels, which sounds like the taper either moving in the crowd or fiddling with the recorder. Historically this is an important gig since it marks SID’s debut. At one point during “Pretty Vacant” john shouts, “How many notice the fucking difference?” Well I can..This shows what was to be the beginning of some very loosely played gigs as far as the music is concerned. Sid is trying at this point you can tell but he still manages a few bum notes most notably the intro to “Satellite”. This gig marks the live debut of the song “EMI”. There are actually a couple of versions of this tape, one is more complete and runs all the way from a few bits of the opening showing of “Sex Pistols No. 1” through “Anarchy in the UK” although it is cut at the end. The better quality tape however fades after “No Feelings”. An interesting note on “I Wanna Be me” Johnnie’s voice cracks like a little kids at one point. The encore version of “GSTQ” actually comes from the Punk Rock Movie.
DRAWBACKS
The fact that once again the gig seems to be split over two versions is definitely a drawback. Also this isn’t the best gig the band ever played. It is very loose and there are a couple of false starts, etc. As for sonically there are no real cuts to speak of with the exception of the cutting of the end of “Anarchy”, but the modulation does occur throughout and there is some interference during ‘Satellite”. The final version of “GSTQ” taken from the video of the Punk Rock movie is unfortunately clipped in the middle.
SETLIST
Intro film “Sex Pistols no. 1”<br>God Save The Queen
I Wanna Be Me
Seventeen
New York
Satellite
EMI
Liar
Pretty Vacant
Problems
No Feelings
Anarchy In The UK (cuts)
God Save The Queen (edited in middle)
June 7, 1977- River Thames Boat Trip
Trt - 38:19
Number of Songs - 6 (fake version)/3(dub off video
Format - cassette
Sound Quality - cut and paste audience recording
Rating - 6
Official/Semi Official Release - none known
Video - Anarchy, Pretty vacant, Problems filmed by a French film crew, which has appeared in many various forms.
REVIEW
Basically this is a cut and paste bootleg of a bootleg, where people looked at a set list in the day-by-day book and duplicated it. From what I can tell only the audio from the video exists as the supposed first three songs on the tape seem to be edited from elsewhere, especially GSTQ which sounds suspiciously like a recorded version, and the first “Anarchy” doesn’t even sound like the SID I know playing.
DRAWBACKS
The fact that basically this is just audio off the video and people feel the need to create what doesn’t exist by pasting together hard to distinguish versions of songs and say it is a rare live tape….Which it of course isn’t…The video is great this audio sucks…Too bad the real versions of the other songs they played that day haven’t turned up.
SETLIST
Anarchy In The UK (FAKE)
God Save The Queen (FAKE)
Holidays In The Sun (FAKE)
Anarchy In The UK (inc)
Pretty Vacant (inc)
Problems (inc)
July 13, 1977- Daddy’s Dance Hall Copenhagen, Denmark
Trt - 44:18
Number of Songs - 11
Format - cassette
Sound Quality - muddy audience recording
Rating - 6.5
Official/Semi Official Release - none known
REVIEW
This is the first night of the Scandinavian tour and actually only SID’s second or third real gig with the band (4th if you count the March Notre Dame Halls TV gig & the Boat party). This is also the last time they will play “Satellite” live which is too bad. This gig also marks the proper debut live of the song “Holidays in the Sun”. The sound does suffer at times from various amounts of feedback. This is one of those important ones if only because it is the first night of the tour. Johnny speaks here and there which makes it easy to spot as legit, and Steve does say “See ya tomorrow after “God Save The Queen” ensuring that this is the first nights tape.
DRAWBACKS
The overall sound of this tape is terribly muddy. There are two versions floating around one is quite clear (no static) but is very boomy, and the other one has a good deal of the heavy generated tape hiss but somehow that has softened the bassy quality of the tape and tends to be the one I listen to more often. Both versions seem to suffer from a common problem of the 70’s recorded tapes which is the microphone being used seems to get overloaded once the music starts, so it will sound really clear and perfect until the music starts and then it sounds almost like someone covered your speakers with a blanket giving you a muffled sound. Also the guitar drops out slightly on “I Wanna Be Me” and some versions have a weird edit after “Pretty vacant” where Steve’s talking bit is repeated.
SETLIST
Anarchy In The UK
I Wanna Be Me
Seventeen
New York
Satellite
No Feelings
No Fun
Holidays in the Sun
Problems
Pretty Vacant
God save The Queen
July 14, 1977 - Daddy’s Dance Hall Copenhagen, Denmark
Trt - 35:05
Number of Songs - 10
Format - cassette
Sound Quality - average audience recording
Rating - 6.5
Official/Semi Official Release - none known
REVIEW
Another decent gig with the band playing quite well, and there doesn’t seem to be the sonic problems of the previous night. They have dropped “Satellite” for good and replaced it with the newer “EMI”, also they don’t play “Holidays” at this gig or it is just not on the tape. A decent gig if somewhat not that memorable. Yeah right, that’s just because I wasn’t there.
DRAWBACKS
Well there is the fact that this gig is shorter in length than the previous night and there is a cut in the tape before “God Save The Queen” which could have been where “Holidays” might have been played, or perhaps the taper just flipped sides and didn’t miss anything. There are also some pretty regular sound fluctuations throughout the tape but the overall quality is average at best so that does detract.
SETLIST
Anarchy In The UK
I Wanna be me
Seventeen
New York
EMI
No Feelings
Pretty Vacant
Problems
God Save The Queen
No Fun
July 15, 1977 - Beach Disco, Halmstad, Sweden
Trt - 33:56
Number of Songs - 9
Format - cassette
Sound Quality - slightly bassy audience recording
Rating - 7
Official/Semi Official Release - Tour Of Scandinavia, Power Of The Pistols, others.
REVIEW
This is a gig where you can definitely tell the SID that was to come as he is pretty high in the mix on this tape and plays ….well terrible, just listen to “No Feelings” .P….U. Although on “Problems” you can hear his two bass licks..Ha ha..Thankfully this is one of the gigs that has come out on many bootleg LP’s so it is pretty easy to come by and it’s fairly decent quality considering. The recording for the most part is fairly clear. The band with the exception of Sid plays well. Hell it seems Paul always played well doesn’t it? John says a few noticeable things to document the gig. Before they start he says, “We’ll begin with Anarchy”, then before “EMI” he says “This is about EMI after they sacked us. Also before “Pretty Vacant” he says “Our new single”. All these can help you pinpoint this gig but usually this one is labeled correctly.
DRAWBACKS
The sound quality is unfortunately a drawback as the bassy tone is unfortunate, and obviously Sid’s fuck ups don’t make it one that your gonna want to listen to a lot if you have quite a few Pistols tapes. Thankfully there are no real edits or cuts and sonically it stays the same.
SETLIST
Anarchy In The UK
I Wanna Be Me
Seventeen
New York
EMI
No Feelings
Pretty Vacant
Problems
God Save The Queen
Part Two: 1977
Jan 5, 1977 - Paradiso Club, Amsterdam, Holland
Trt - 40:49
Number of Songs - 11
Format - cassette
Sound Quality - noisy, static filled audience recording
Rating - 6
Official/Semi Official Release - none known
REVIEW
While it isn’t one of the greatest sounding gigs it is Glen’s last (not counting the reunion) and for that alone it should be sought out. It is the last time you will hear “substitute” played live, as Sid could never tackle that one. A pretty well played gig all in all but not played with the ferocity of some of the earlier September 76’gigs. In addition to the playing Glen’s back-ups will also be sadly missed as Steve’s tend to almost be delivered in a joking manner and Sid’s that of a football chant. During “I Wanna be Me” Johnny yells out “EMI” acknowledging the fact that the band already knew the company would release a statement the following day as to the termination of their contract. A relatively short set this time but this would become the norm until the end of the year when they will play some of their longest ones. “God Save the Queen” is quite an interesting version with Johnny and Steve adlibbing parts throughout. All in all worth it as the overall mix is nice and balanced and helps to overcome some of the sonic interferences.
DRAWBACKS
There are some minor sound modulations and it is a generally noisy sounding tape with lots of static. The very first few seconds of “Anarchy” have been clipped but not very bad you probably won’t notice it. The beginning of “Satellite” sounds a bit abrupt but doesn’t really sound like there is an edit, but there does sound like a sonic change after “God Save The Queen”, which may have just been a quick edit to flip the tape.
SETLIST
Anarchy In The UK
I Wanna Be Me
Seventeen
New York
Satellite
God Save The Queen
Substitute
No Feelings
Pretty Vacant
Liar
Problems
April 3rd, 1977 - Screen on the Green, Islington
Trt - 38:19
Number of Songs - 12
Format - cassette
Sound Quality - average audience w/ some modulation, static
Rating - 1-10 (7) 11,12 (6)
Official/Semi Official Release - none known
Video -GSTQ (2 versions) & bits of 17, New York, Liar & Pretty Vacant in Don Letts’ Punk Rock Movie.
REVIEW
Overall this is a pretty good audience tape but it does suffer at times from a bit of modulation in levels, which sounds like the taper either moving in the crowd or fiddling with the recorder. Historically this is an important gig since it marks SID’s debut. At one point during “Pretty Vacant” john shouts, “How many notice the fucking difference?” Well I can..This shows what was to be the beginning of some very loosely played gigs as far as the music is concerned. Sid is trying at this point you can tell but he still manages a few bum notes most notably the intro to “Satellite”. This gig marks the live debut of the song “EMI”. There are actually a couple of versions of this tape, one is more complete and runs all the way from a few bits of the opening showing of “Sex Pistols No. 1” through “Anarchy in the UK” although it is cut at the end. The better quality tape however fades after “No Feelings”. An interesting note on “I Wanna Be me” Johnnie’s voice cracks like a little kids at one point. The encore version of “GSTQ” actually comes from the Punk Rock Movie.
DRAWBACKS
The fact that once again the gig seems to be split over two versions is definitely a drawback. Also this isn’t the best gig the band ever played. It is very loose and there are a couple of false starts, etc. As for sonically there are no real cuts to speak of with the exception of the cutting of the end of “Anarchy”, but the modulation does occur throughout and there is some interference during ‘Satellite”. The final version of “GSTQ” taken from the video of the Punk Rock movie is unfortunately clipped in the middle.
SETLIST
Intro film “Sex Pistols no. 1”<br>God Save The Queen
I Wanna Be Me
Seventeen
New York
Satellite
EMI
Liar
Pretty Vacant
Problems
No Feelings
Anarchy In The UK (cuts)
God Save The Queen (edited in middle)
June 7, 1977- River Thames Boat Trip
Trt - 38:19
Number of Songs - 6 (fake version)/3(dub off video
Format - cassette
Sound Quality - cut and paste audience recording
Rating - 6
Official/Semi Official Release - none known
Video - Anarchy, Pretty vacant, Problems filmed by a French film crew, which has appeared in many various forms.
REVIEW
Basically this is a cut and paste bootleg of a bootleg, where people looked at a set list in the day-by-day book and duplicated it. From what I can tell only the audio from the video exists as the supposed first three songs on the tape seem to be edited from elsewhere, especially GSTQ which sounds suspiciously like a recorded version, and the first “Anarchy” doesn’t even sound like the SID I know playing.
DRAWBACKS
The fact that basically this is just audio off the video and people feel the need to create what doesn’t exist by pasting together hard to distinguish versions of songs and say it is a rare live tape….Which it of course isn’t…The video is great this audio sucks…Too bad the real versions of the other songs they played that day haven’t turned up.
SETLIST
Anarchy In The UK (FAKE)
God Save The Queen (FAKE)
Holidays In The Sun (FAKE)
Anarchy In The UK (inc)
Pretty Vacant (inc)
Problems (inc)
July 13, 1977- Daddy’s Dance Hall Copenhagen, Denmark
Trt - 44:18
Number of Songs - 11
Format - cassette
Sound Quality - muddy audience recording
Rating - 6.5
Official/Semi Official Release - none known
REVIEW
This is the first night of the Scandinavian tour and actually only SID’s second or third real gig with the band (4th if you count the March Notre Dame Halls TV gig & the Boat party). This is also the last time they will play “Satellite” live which is too bad. This gig also marks the proper debut live of the song “Holidays in the Sun”. The sound does suffer at times from various amounts of feedback. This is one of those important ones if only because it is the first night of the tour. Johnny speaks here and there which makes it easy to spot as legit, and Steve does say “See ya tomorrow after “God Save The Queen” ensuring that this is the first nights tape.
DRAWBACKS
The overall sound of this tape is terribly muddy. There are two versions floating around one is quite clear (no static) but is very boomy, and the other one has a good deal of the heavy generated tape hiss but somehow that has softened the bassy quality of the tape and tends to be the one I listen to more often. Both versions seem to suffer from a common problem of the 70’s recorded tapes which is the microphone being used seems to get overloaded once the music starts, so it will sound really clear and perfect until the music starts and then it sounds almost like someone covered your speakers with a blanket giving you a muffled sound. Also the guitar drops out slightly on “I Wanna Be Me” and some versions have a weird edit after “Pretty vacant” where Steve’s talking bit is repeated.
SETLIST
Anarchy In The UK
I Wanna Be Me
Seventeen
New York
Satellite
No Feelings
No Fun
Holidays in the Sun
Problems
Pretty Vacant
God save The Queen
July 14, 1977 - Daddy’s Dance Hall Copenhagen, Denmark
Trt - 35:05
Number of Songs - 10
Format - cassette
Sound Quality - average audience recording
Rating - 6.5
Official/Semi Official Release - none known
REVIEW
Another decent gig with the band playing quite well, and there doesn’t seem to be the sonic problems of the previous night. They have dropped “Satellite” for good and replaced it with the newer “EMI”, also they don’t play “Holidays” at this gig or it is just not on the tape. A decent gig if somewhat not that memorable. Yeah right, that’s just because I wasn’t there.
DRAWBACKS
Well there is the fact that this gig is shorter in length than the previous night and there is a cut in the tape before “God Save The Queen” which could have been where “Holidays” might have been played, or perhaps the taper just flipped sides and didn’t miss anything. There are also some pretty regular sound fluctuations throughout the tape but the overall quality is average at best so that does detract.
SETLIST
Anarchy In The UK
I Wanna be me
Seventeen
New York
EMI
No Feelings
Pretty Vacant
Problems
God Save The Queen
No Fun
July 15, 1977 - Beach Disco, Halmstad, Sweden
Trt - 33:56
Number of Songs - 9
Format - cassette
Sound Quality - slightly bassy audience recording
Rating - 7
Official/Semi Official Release - Tour Of Scandinavia, Power Of The Pistols, others.
REVIEW
This is a gig where you can definitely tell the SID that was to come as he is pretty high in the mix on this tape and plays ….well terrible, just listen to “No Feelings” .P….U. Although on “Problems” you can hear his two bass licks..Ha ha..Thankfully this is one of the gigs that has come out on many bootleg LP’s so it is pretty easy to come by and it’s fairly decent quality considering. The recording for the most part is fairly clear. The band with the exception of Sid plays well. Hell it seems Paul always played well doesn’t it? John says a few noticeable things to document the gig. Before they start he says, “We’ll begin with Anarchy”, then before “EMI” he says “This is about EMI after they sacked us. Also before “Pretty Vacant” he says “Our new single”. All these can help you pinpoint this gig but usually this one is labeled correctly.
DRAWBACKS
The sound quality is unfortunately a drawback as the bassy tone is unfortunate, and obviously Sid’s fuck ups don’t make it one that your gonna want to listen to a lot if you have quite a few Pistols tapes. Thankfully there are no real edits or cuts and sonically it stays the same.
SETLIST
Anarchy In The UK
I Wanna Be Me
Seventeen
New York
EMI
No Feelings
Pretty Vacant
Problems
God Save The Queen